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Post 1 written Jan 22, 2016 at 19:31

Modified: Jan 22, 2016 at 19:34

Bit of a hot potato at the moment but it's absolutely infuriating me what's happening out there. I don't get it. Am I only person who believes that we need to close the borders and keep them closed? They come to our country for a better life and live off our benefits? They are crippling our health system, our schools, and housing. The ones that do work steal our jobs. It already came out that two of the attackers in the Paris attacks sneaked into our countries as immigrants. Did you hear the thing on New Years where immigrants had sexually assaulted hundreds of women in Germany? They must be stopped!

Sweden is actually getting more immigrants per capita than any other country in the world at the moment. Hell, they've already imposed border restrictions.

We've also got a referendum coming up soon and I will be voting to leave the EU.

Make no mistake about it, we are being invaded.

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Post 2 written Jan 23, 2016 at 12:34

Of course.
Countries like Germany, Sweden, France and a few other so-called "western" countries are committing suicide in front of our eyes.
Their governments openly act against the interest of their citizens and nations. It's way over the line. If people don't wake up and react, and I think they won't, the end will be quite bitter, it's just a matter of time. The clock is ticking...

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Post 3 written Jan 26, 2016 at 19:46

Surprised you would say that. I really thought I'd have to spend more time convincing you.

I read today that some Swedish woman was stabbed to death by a refugee. Also reading about the fate of the EU and it's on the brink of collapse because no country is willing to take responsibility for the migrant crisis and Germany shouldn't be encouraging them to come.

What pisses me off the most is these do-gooders. Every time anybody ever says anything bad about immigration, we're immediately called racists. What's racist about it.

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Post 4 written Jan 29, 2016 at 00:48

Modified: Jan 29, 2016 at 00:52

Sigh, this topic makes me so tired, but I agree with both of you in point of course. And believe me any problems you have with both desctructive effects on society as well as do-gooders calling people racist for even having an opinion, we have it likely 10 times worse here in Sweden.

Last year (last fall mostly) there were over 300 violent incidents at refugee homes where police had to be called, it's complete chaos and even the police have publically stated in desperation that they simply don't have enough resources to carry out normal police work anymore because so much of their time and energy is hogged by the problems caused by the refugees. The same goes for hospitals etc. Last monday a girl got stabbed yeah, and yesterday 20 refugees banded together, armed themselves and attacked the workers at another home to where they had to lock themselves in an office waiting for the police to come and sort it out. Inbetween there were 3 or 4 other "lesser" similar incidents. Today 5 of these "kids" attacked staff violently because one boy "didn't get the candy he wanted".

Another funny incident a few weeks ago led to 10 (yes, ten) armed police officers having to back out of one of these homes through an emergency exit and flee for their lives, they only got out safely due to the fact they had a few dogs with them. Besides actually shooting to kill (which clearly is not the politically correct thing to do!) they were powerless to control the people in there. That alone tells you a little bit about the atmosphere in these places, as well as how greatful these people are to get to come here and get fed by our tax money.

And yeah the sexual molestations and attacks by gangs of refugees against single girls are happening ALL the time here, not just in festivals but on random streets every weekend, and especially in public bath houses, where men and women are now starting to be kept in separate pools. A few people have started monitoring the more serious gang coordinated sexual crimes by immigrants since mid december and currently, the map looks like this:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/5dfa06461770155

The swedish is references to what actually happened so people can google every unique source to see for themselves that it's not just racist propaganda. I especially love one case where a group of immigrant men circled two 7-year old swedish girls, groped them, beat them and then pissed on them. Such wonderful cultures these people come from. And of course you see NOTHING of this reported in our major newspapers either. Can't risk looking racist, better that innocent young girls get raped in silence and make sure not to scream too loud.

And right now it's freezing cold and snow here and everybody is bundled up in winter coats and mostly staying indoors. I'm really afraid of what will happen in the spring and summer when everybody's outdoors and beaches and city streets are full of girls with little to no clothes on. We already have some of the worst rape statistics in the world since we started enriching our culture with people from the middle east and africa, and I doubt it's going to be getting any better in the near future.

Sad times indeed.

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Post 5 written Jan 29, 2016 at 16:50

You're right there but immigration is in our news a lot. They've just announced this week they'll be taking in even more "refugees". I am absolutely sick of it. Fortunately, we live on an island so it's hard for them to reach but as I speak, they are all at Calais trying to get through the channel tunnel to reach us.

It's people like Hicks that piss me off. I haven't been to my site for a few months now because I just can't stand to be around him anymore. Whenever we say anything anti-immigration, he jumps on us. He tries to suppress my opinion because he's scared what others will think of me. He called me a racist because I said we had an infestation problem. I don't see what the big deal is, personally. Hicks is the perfect example of what I call the "PC Brigade". He has absolutely no clue what goes on in the real world and would rather wait for a terrorist attack to happen here than to prevent it in the first place. Either way, I want them all out of this country and I won't rest until they are all gone.

Don't let the bastards grind you down. We have to take a stand against evil!

And yeah the sexual molestations and attacks by gangs of refugees against single girls are happening ALL the time here, not just in festivals but on random streets every weekend, and especially in public bath houses, where men and women are now starting to be kept in separate pools. A few people have started monitoring the more serious gang coordinated sexual crimes by immigrants since mid december and currently, the map looks like this:

Hmm, I thought it was just Germany where this behaviour was going on. I can't say we really get any of that here. I mostly focus on the problems that affect the country as a whole.

The swedish is references to what actually happened so people can google every unique source to see for themselves that it's not just racist propaganda. I especially love one case where a group of immigrant men circled two 7-year old swedish girls, groped them, beat them and then pissed on them. Such wonderful cultures these people come from. And of course you see NOTHING of this reported in our major newspapers either. Can't risk looking racist, better that innocent young girls get raped in silence and make sure not to scream too loud.

I am absolutely disgusted by what you just wrote. I don't understand why this abhorrent behaviour isn't being reported in the media? See, here, the media would be all over this.

Okay, here's what you're going to do. Last year was the first time I ever voted in an election and I voted UKIP - a sort of far right anti immigration anti europe party. They came third with almost 4 million votes which was a pretty big achievement. In your next election, I want you to vote for the party who is against immigration. If you all did that, there would be no problem.

What's the general attitude like amongst the general public in Sweden? Have they all just had enough of your open door policy?

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Post 6 written Jan 30, 2016 at 13:59

Modified: Jan 30, 2016 at 14:06

Whenever we say anything anti-immigration, he jumps on us. He tries to suppress my opinion because he's scared what others will think of me. He called me a racist because I said we had an infestation problem. I don't see what the big deal is, personally. Hicks is the perfect example of what I call the "PC Brigade". He has absolutely no clue what goes on in the real world and would rather wait for a terrorist attack to happen here than to prevent it in the first place. Either way, I want them all out of this country and I won't rest until they are all gone.

Yeah, the average Swede has been the same way here, unfortunately including our politicians. It's funny how our prime minister just last spring was answering media questions about how many immigrants we could take with "There is no limit" only to six months later go out and desperately try to slow the flow down with border controls and saying "We've probably been a little naive". No shit. Who would have known bringing upwards around 200,000 people from cultures with the worst views on women, human rights and corruption into a country who's leading the stats in those areas would cause any kind of a clash.

I am certainly not a racist myself, I have friends of all skin colors and I judge people mainly as individuals and not as groups, but I am still capable of identifying various problematic behaviour in cultures (including my own) and it's frustrating to get called a racist for virtually anything you say even though there's nothing actually race related about the arguments.

Hmm, I thought it was just Germany where this behaviour was going on. I can't say we really get any of that here. I mostly focus on the problems that affect the country as a whole.

Well there's that too, like I said our police and medical care is very heavily weighed down by this, but there is a lot of random violence and sexual attacks against young girls all over the country. It's also recently been known that this has been going on for many years in festivals where gangs of immigrant boys run around assaulting young girls but that the police actually deliberately has been quieting this down and telling people "things were calm" even though they weren't, just to not appear racist. Boggles the mind how pathetically weak people can get.

I am absolutely disgusted by what you just wrote. I don't understand why this abhorrent behaviour isn't being reported in the media?

Simply because people are too afraid to look racist. These things tend to get some very small notice in local papers that's very toned down and anything immigrant-ish taken out, but the major newspapers often completely ignore it.

Okay, here's what you're going to do. Last year was the first time I ever voted in an election and I voted UKIP - a sort of far right anti immigration anti europe party. They came third with almost 4 million votes which was a pretty big achievement. In your next election, I want you to vote for the party who is against immigration. If you all did that, there would be no problem.

Yeah, we have a party as well that is very anti immigration, the Sweden Democrats, who got 13% in the last election in 2014 and apparently opinion polls are now showing they are today the biggest party with around 25% support. Whereas voting for them a few years ago could (and did) get you fired from your job and your house spraypainted on and your car tires cut (for being a "racist") it's today become a lot more accepted and more and more people are realising we need to vote for some more extreme alternative if we're going to stop this chaos before it does major irreparable damage.

Sadly I couldn't vote in the last election because I was out on a rescue call that day but it's not like my vote would have made a difference anyway. I'll try to make the next one though.

What's the general attitude like amongst the general public in Sweden? Have they all just had enough of your open door policy?

Yeah, pretty much everybody hates what's going on. The sad thing is when the Sweden Democrats got 13% in the last election, the government and mass media rejoiced because "87% of Swedes want immigration". What they don't get is that people of all parties across the entire political spectrum are sick of this particular matter and wants an end to it fast regardless of why they otherwise voted for whatever party they voted for, which is why older established parties are now bleeding voters and members to the Sweden Democrats to a noticable degree every day. People are realising they're pretty much our last hope.

What's funny is - a LOT of already integrated immigrants in Sweden are actually voting for that party as well. Western africans who are civilised and educated with jobs and families are watching in horror as we're importing hordes of violent Somalians and they don't feel safe anymore either - mainly because they know too well from their own home lands what these people are capable of.

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Post 7 written Feb 1, 2016 at 20:57

Yeah, it's the same situation here. Every year our PM says he wants to keep keep immigration low, when the official figures come out, it's hundreds of thousands that have come here. It's the same shit. Nobody is happy about it but nobody has the balls to actually do anything about it.

I am certainly not a racist myself, I have friends of all skin colors and I judge people mainly as individuals and not as groups, but I am still capable of identifying various problematic behaviour in cultures (including my own) and it's frustrating to get called a racist for virtually anything you say even though there's nothing actually race related about the arguments.

I agree. One of my closest friends at little school was as black as an ace of spades. He was a ballet dancer so he got a bit of flack for that. And I've sat next to various people at work over the years including Asian, Black, Chinese, Polish, - you name it. Well, never had a choice really. I mean the stuff I've said in this topic, I would never say at work. Like I said, you can't say anything these days without offending somebody.

Surely, your votes would be private so nobody would know who you voted for?

You get that similar view here really. Well, there is a lot of prejudice (?) about far right parties like UKIP. They do get a lot of protests against them. Every other party constantly criticizes them the first chance they get. They're the only party willing to do anything about the problem.

Sadly I couldn't vote in the last election because I was out on a rescue call that day but it's not like my vote would have made a difference anyway.

Don't say that! If everybody thought like that, nothing would ever get done. Same situation here though. My area is a safe Labour area so my vote never made any difference. UKIP did come second though. But the thing is, I did get a bit of a thrill when I put my slip in the voter box. Oh, and my UKIP candidate was actually an old pal from school coincidentally.

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I heard about the latest attack in Sweden. Many men stormed the train station in Stockholm and started beating up lots of children who didn't look ethically Swedish, lol. Some poor sod got beaten up said he was actually Swedish. It sounds harsh but if your police can't be bothered to do anything about the refugees, things like this are going to happen more and more. You weren't kidding though when you said Sweden had it bad.

I was reading in my local rag yesterday that my district is going to be getting 100 Syrians over the next three years. I work my arse off every day to make ends meet. These lot come here and get housed for free along with benefits? My grandad would turn in his grave if he was alive to see this today.

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Post 8 written Feb 6, 2016 at 11:42

This tells a lot about how so-called "democratic governments" see and treat their own people.

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Post 9 written Jun 30, 2016 at 15:43

Well, I bet neither of you saw that coming. We have voted to leave the EU.

They're calling to have referendums in France, Holland and Sweden now.